payment week for the toy?

[joneyyy1981]

is anyone else here not paying the £10 to use the toy this week?

i know i'm gonna get ripped for this but making it a must pay is a bit of a joke..

my reasons personally are iv already braught 4 bloody red noses, also £2 per child for non uniform red nose day i have 3 kids , + my £10 per month to cancer research + £4 per month to st francis hospic,

i already give what i can

[The Geek]

i know i'm gonna get ripped for this but making it a must pay is a bit of a joke..

I agree. It's an absolute liberty charging for the toy even for charity. Please accept my apologies for this heinous crime & let me know your PayPal details so I can pay you £10 for the privilege of you using my software and supporting you during the charity weeks instead.

[basten]

moneybookers?

Hi, is there a possibility to use moneybookers for this? I dont use online credit cards and i dont have paypal.

[The Geek]

Sorry we only accept donations via PayPal currently.

[shadowninja]

my reasons personally are iv already braught 4 bloody red noses, also £2 per child for non uniform red nose day i have 3 kids , + my £10 per month to cancer research + £4 per month to st francis hospic,

i already give what i can

Personally, I haven't paid because I already give three to four hours a week of my time to a cancer centre/hospice (plus other extra time for one-off events they hold) plus regularly donate to said hospice and Help For Heroes but I respect Mr Geek's desire to raise money for a charity he supports and don't want to discourage others from giving to charity.

Of course, if Mr Geek were to reflect my charitable donations elsewhere and lack of complaining by allowing me to access AGT this week, I would be most grateful. Alternatively, I will STFU and do something else until Tuesday as we should count ourselves lucky we have access to such a great product on a normally free basis. It's frustrating but I'll have to accept the current "fee" system.

[olafTheNinja]

While I agree that you are at liberty to charge for the toy or even force users to make a donation to a charity you fancy, forcing people to donate to pseudo charities which use up to 90% of their donations to cover administrative and ancillary costs with only a trifle of what they receive trickling down to the actual causes they purport to support is not the way to go about it IMHO. Donating to a charity is and should remain a voluntary exercise one decides to undertake according to his means. It would have just been enough to ask whoever is willing and able to make a donation to do so.

But what galls me is something else. I've enjoyed using the Toy very much and it actually helped me make some money the past few weeks on Betfair. But then disaster struck last Saturday. I started trading the Man Utd vs Arsenal game pre-match with a view to closing my positions in-play. Suddenly, Betfair went down and there was no way I could close my positions at all, doing in my whole bank.

Now, I've managed to scrape together some money to help me start building a new bank on Betfair. I try to login to the Toy today only to find out I cannot use it until I make a donation to some charity. Without any warning. Now what am I to do? While I would have been willing to make this donation if I had the cash or if I had received sufficient warning before, that I would not be able to use the Toy today before I make a donation, this action really is a game changer for me.

I will look for an alternative product to start building my bank at Betfair with. After making enough at Betfair or after receiving my meager wages, whichever comes first, I will take a subscription with one of the API products and continue donating to charities of my choice, while living with the fact that I would be able to use the product without fear that my use of it will be impaired at the whim of the developer.

[Temujin]

While I understand peoples issues, you are not donating, the Geek is. You are donating to the toy, nothing else. What he then chooses to do with those donations is up to him.
Are people really that hard up that they will take a week off for the sake of 10 bucks out of protest? Personally I couldn't afford not to have access.

[theman73]

I donate because i like The Toy and is the cheapest way to use such software

How much it will cost me if i use similar software from other vendor?

I'm from a pure country , i have diferent understanding of 5 euro like people from other country so please dont be silly , 5 or 10 euro is nothing

[shadowninja]

For me, it's not about being hard up but about preferring to do something for charity rather than simply donating money.

[Wednesday 13]

I try to login to the Toy today only to find out I cannot use it until I make a donation to some charity. Without any warning.

While I don't go into reasons one pays or doesn't pay, I can assure you you are not right on this point. Enough warnings have been made officially and un-officilaly on this forum, including this one:

http://www.geekstoy.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3560

Now, it's up to you if you will read announcements or no.

[The Geek]

I try to login to the Toy today only to find out I cannot use it until I make a donation to some charity. Without any warning.

Obviously we have different perceptions of "any warning". Firstly I did warn people in a mailer the other day, and secondly there has been a statement up about this for months in the announcements forum...

http://www.geekstoy.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3560

I will look for an alternative product to start building my bank at Betfair with. After making enough at Betfair or after receiving my meager wages, whichever comes first, I will take a subscription with one of the API products and continue donating to charities of my choice, while living with the fact that I would be able to use the product without fear that my use of it will be impaired at the whim of the developer.

If you would rather write reams of bitching on forums & pay a monthly sub to another software provider instead of a one off charitiable contribution here who am I to stand in your way. So please don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. { In fact I will make a point of blocking your access permanently just so you can be a man of conviction!}

At least then I can raise money for good causes without the fear that my doing so will be impaired at the whim of every freeloader who thinks I should be paying them to use my product.

[rikki]

you have in the banner 100% Free, but is not correct. To use i have to pay.

[olafTheNinja]

Obviously we have different perceptions of "any warning". Firstly I did warn people in a mailer the other day, and secondly there has been a statement up about this for months in the announcements forum...

http://www.geekstoy.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3560

I've not received any mail from you, so if you actually sent it, It must have got lost somewhere in the nethers of the interwebs and I did not check the forum for some time because I am actually too busy trying to earn a living.

....So please don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. { In fact I will make a point of blocking your access permanently just so you can be a man of conviction!}

You know, I am also a software developer, engaging in various open source products and giving people software to use for free. If I insulted everyone who makes a little complaint because of something I did, I would lose a lot of goodwill. Please feel free to also delete my name from this forum.

[jimrobo]

seriously???

don't donate, uninstall the toy, go pay for a subscription for the same thing and go cut off your nose to spite your face......laters

Annoys me when people moan because they expect something that took hundreds of hours professional coding work for free

[The Geek]

If I insulted everyone who makes a little complaint because of something I did

I'm not insulting anyone for making any kind of complaint. I am simply complaining about your complaining, which I'm as entitled to do as much as you!