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  • Leverage

    A concept recently mentioned by Temujin here:



    and of paramount importance whenever devising a trading/betting strategy; calculating an EV (Expected Value), weighing a (supposed to be) edge, etc.

    You are using a positive leverage (your return is potentially bigger than the money at stake, aka risked) whenever you

    BACK at odds > 2
    or
    LAY at odds < 2

    You are using a negative leverage (your return will always be smaller than the money at stake, aka risked) whenever you

    BACK at odds < 2
    or
    LAY at odds > 2

    whenever backing or laying at odds = 2 you have no leverage either sides (leverage is zero).
    So we can say that odds @ 2 are our pivot point for leverage

    Although the above sounds quite simple and trivial it affects very much any betting strategy /money management.

    But that's not all. Since you have to pay commissions on winners the above statements are not actually true as you should factor them in (what follows are rough but effective pivot points):

    Normal commissions (5%)
    Pivot points:
    BACK: 2.05; LAY: 1.95

    PC1 (20/23%)
    BACK: 2.2/2.23; LAY: 1.8/1.77

    PC2 (40/60%)
    BACK: 2.4/2.6 ; LAY: 1.6/ 1.4

    You now can understand why betting edges/systems that have proved profitable under one commissions rate may turn into losers under different ones.

    Furthermore: the first leverage's point of impact in evaluating a possible EV / planning and backtesting a betting/trading strategy, at first glance, is that with positive leverage you can live with strike rates < 50% (less than 50% of winners), while with negative leverage the number of your winners needs to be larger than that of the losers.

    For a deeper approach to the concept of leverage in Finance and Trading see:


    Last edited by PesceLesso; 17 November 2011, 04:39 PM.
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  • #2
    It's important to remember that leverage not only increases winnings, it magnifies losses. I know people who have lost their family homes by abusing leverage.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by PesceLesso View Post
      Normal commissions (5%)
      Pivot points:
      BACK: 2.05; LAY: 1.95

      PC1 (20/23%)
      BACK: 2.2/2.23; LAY: 1.8/1.77

      PC2 (40/60%)
      BACK: 2.4/2.6 ; LAY: 1.6/ 1.4

      You now can understand why betting edges/systems that have proved profitable under one commissions rate may turn into losers under different ones.


      Under different commission rates - yes. But from the Premium charge itself - I can not agree here. Actually the Premium charge is based on commission generated + net winning. So if a winner strategy become a losing one the premium charge will stop to be implemenent from the very moment the strategy going to lose - i'd say even earlier - because if the strategy you used show 120% ROI and you qualy for a premium charge - You will pay it. But if the strategy going less proffitable in long term - reducing to 102% ROI for example - you will generate much more commission against the Gross Profit which will ultimately leed to no pay of PC. So the correlation between Winning strategy becoming a losing one from a PC itself is -1 (no correlation at all) The greedy basterds have thinked about that very carefully:
      So if the strategy is profitable but not generating commission take will take their share.
      If the strategy is not profitable and start to lose they will no longer imply the PC because you are generating commission.
      Which leads to your odds about the PC are not exactly correct especially if we talk about a betting strategies.

      This is a very often delusion among bettors.

      PS. I am talking about betting systems here - because this PC is made gennerally for the traders and againts them (like me ) because there is no winning trader (I mean in the financial way - not the gambling way) who manage do avoid premium charge from trading only - HE must use betting systems if he want to avoid it.

      PS2. I can prove my words with Real examples if you like(using some equasions for PC ofc).
      The odds of succes dramaticly improve with each attempt

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