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  • Royal Ascot - Friday

    Sitting out Thursday was not a bad call, the rain has got into the ground and the times were significantly slower than standard. High draws remain preferable and going into Friday's racing you certainly want mud lovers on your side.

    2.30 Albany Stakes (Group 3) Fillies 6f

    Teolane (7/4f) appears to set the standard after her victory in a Naas Listed race over 6f around a fortnight ago. She is the highest earning progeny of Teofilio - a son of Galileo, so soft ground shouldn't be a problem but there is a question mark (Her three runs to date have been on Good to Firm). Inetrobil hacked up by 6 lengths easing down on her debut in a small maiden at Redcar late last month. Being by Bertolini she should also be fine on a soft surface. Sajwah represents Barry & Richard Hills - she is by Exceed And Excel out of a Linamix mare so there is a mixture of fast and soft ground preferences within her pedigree. Her maiden win came at Warwick in early May and as with Inetrobil's race, the placed horses each failed to win next time out. Illaunglass won on Lingfield's all weather surface on her only start, her sire Red Clubs (by Red Ransom) would not be known for getting soft ground types. On the other hand Switcher (by Whipper) has every chance of wanting to get her toe in. She won a Maiden at Haydock last month but again the placed horses from her race disappointed next time.

    Recommendation: Switcher's price potentially has some room for manoeuvre, take anything in double figures and lay it off at 6 in running.

    3.05 King Edward VII Stakes (Group 2) 1m4f

    This is the Ascot Derby, in effect. Nathaniel no doubt sets the standard on his first start as a 2yo where he ran Frankel to 1/2 length on soft ground at Newmarket. He started at the lowly odds of 1/20 to break his duck at the third time of asking in April (winning by 9l) and then connections tested the water in the Group 3 Chester Vase in early May. The eventual Derby second Treasure Beach conquered him that day, Nathaniel went down by a head after his rival found more on the run-in. Comes here fresh and the ground should not be an issue, so must have leading claims (11/4f currently). Glen's Diamond comes here on the back of a four timer which included his maiden, a nursery, 0-100 handicap and the Group 3 Dee Stakes - also at the Chester meeting. His only defeat to date came first time out in a race which was won by the winner of Wednesday's Sandringham handicap Rhythm Of Light. Ground and trip also look fine for him (By Intikhab). An unknown quantity is Mijhaar, who won a Haydock maiden last month by 7l. By Shirrocco, sire of Thursday's King George V Stakes winner Black Panther, he is not certain to want soft or heavy going. Current odds are only 11/2 and that looks skimpy. World Domination also looks too short at 5/1. He had the racing world talking him up as a potential Derby winner after his victory in a Maiden at Newbury in April. Sent off 5/2 2nd Fav in the Dante, he finished fourth behind Carlton House, Seville and Thursday's Tercentenary Stakes winner Pisco Sour. World Domination has an American sire and he is out of the 1997 Oaks Winner Reams Of Verse (By Nureyev), so everything points towards him wanting a sound surface. Genius Beast, 3rd to Frankel & Nathaniel as a 2yo, comes here as the top horse on official ratings. He won Sandown's Classic Trial (Group 3) first time up over 1m2f and then went to Longchamp for a Group 2 over 1m3f last time, finishing third after leading for most of the race.

    Recommendation:As impressive as World Domination may have been first time out, his Dante run told it's own story and the boggy ground here is likely to inconvenience him. 2.32 to lay a place may be the call, however all 11 must run for the advice to stand.

    3.45 Coronation Stakes (Group 1) Fillies 1m

    11/2 the field here brings in Aidan O Brien's Together, who had eight starts as a 2yo - winning a maiden and a Group 3 over 7f. She started out at Newmarket this season in the £250k sales race, finishing 5th, before going on to finish second in the English and Irish 1000 Guineas. By Galileo out of a Pennekamp mare, 7f to a mile would be her optimum trip and she had no problem with soft ground on one start as a 2yo - although in that race she veered violently and handed victory to her rivals! Theyskens' Theory (13/2) is next in the book. She has 1l 1/4 to make up on Together from their Fillies Mile run here last October. Theyskens' Theory went to the Breeders Cup for the Juvenile Fillies race after that, but didn't see the 1m 1f trip out and faded to finish down the field. She won on her reappearance at York in May, taking a Listed contest as she liked. She took a Group 3 on soft as a 2yo so there should be no excuses unless it turns into genuine heavy going. Memory (Dansili) & Maqaasid (Green Desert) probably want better ground. More Than Real & Nova Hawk are definite contenders, but the one that I really like in this is the French filly Immortal Verse. Her form last time out in a Chantilly Group 2 reads well and the pace of this race could set things up for her, as she will be dropped out and ridden for toe late on. The ground is fine for her and she will stay 1m2f on paper, so at 12/1 she must be the value call.

    Recommendation: It has to be each-way Immortal Verse. 12/1 is still on offer in places, but it's going quickly! As far as this thread goes, this filly in the NAP each way at 12/1.

    4.25 Wolferton Handicap (Listed Race) 1m2f

    This revolves around Green Destiny, who side-stepped Wednesday's Royal Hunt Cup in preference for Friday's race. On paper there are 12 pounds between the 16 runners, it's 2/1 the jolly and that could well go shorter. He has a win on heavy to his name, is on a 4 timer and put up his best effort to date last time. As a result he has risen 12 pounds in the weights, but as with Black Panther on Thursday, he could be a Group horse in a handicap. 8/1 bar one brings in Godolphin's Lost In The Moment. He competed at Meydan in the spring but was beaten off his current mark (100) last time out at Chester. In truth a number of these are already beginning to look exposed, Beachfire is only 14/1 and whilst he undoubtedly has ability, he tends to get himself tailed off early in his races. Waydownsouth (18/1) can be forgiven his first run this season, he was set an impossible task at the weights last time and could creep into the race late on. At the top of the handicap is Forte Dei Marmi - he is another who can be expected to show more than he has done on the last two occasions, although he is untried on genuinely soft ground.

    Recommendation: This is more competitive than the betting suggests. Back Waydownsouth and Forte Dei Marmi at 21 & 19, then look for reduced odds in-running.

    5.00 Queen's Vase (Group 3) 2m

    One of the best races at the meeting for me. These 3yos were bred for the Derby but end up tackling 2m! Aidan O'Brien runs Regent Street - he finished second to Thursday's Ribblesdale winner Banimpire first time up and then found stable mates Recital and Memphis Tennessee too good in the Derrinstown at Leopardstown. His form is probably the best on offer.... but will he stay? 3/1f. Solar Sky first ran as a 3yo, stable mate World Domination (Runs 3.05) won the maiden contest at Newbury in which Solar Sky finished second. He went to Haydock in May for a 1m 4f and had no problem in disposing of the opposition at odds of 2/13. Like the favourite, he is a son of Galileo. Mark Johnston sends out a strong trio in Namibian (11/2), Eternal Heart (7/1) and Halifax (17/2). There wouldn't be much to split them, although perhaps Namibian's pedigree is more suited to a stamina sapping test on this type of ground.

    Recommendation: Regent Street is a worthy favourite but they should make this a real test and so I would suggest a back to lay approach for the Johnston duo Namibian @ 6.6 and Halifax @ 9.4.

    5.35 Buckingham Palace Stakes (Class 2) 7f

    Back to the sprint course, where we can only guess that you still want to be drawn high. They're betting 8/1 the field and the current market leader is Docofthebay, however he finds himself running off a mark of 95 after a series of placed efforts in decent handicaps. His previous wins were off marks of 90 and below, so despite his plum draw (32/32) he only makes limited appeal. It's as open a race as you could wish to find, however I would put Kalk Bay and Axiom forward as solid each way propositions.

    Recommendation: Nice and simple - 1 point each way each of Kalk Bay @ 10/1 and Axiom @ 18/1.

    Have a great Friday people

  • #2
    Glad i missed yesterday, i had Internet issue, good thing you started another thread that other one was going nuts.

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    • #3
      Race 1

      Called it perfectly, i almost layed off at 8s before the off but decided to stick to the plan.

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      • #4
        Not going to read through completely today (usually do though), but appreciate the efforts. I usually like to read this as others opinion is certainly a learning experience...
        And shut up Shaun, there was nothing nuts about it... Just a bit of healthy discussion.... rotflmfao....

        Profitable day to all.. I am nearly there, only been at it 12 hours...

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        • #5
          Race 2

          Since you advised we needed 11 runners i had already layed him @2.28 the place earlier today and just greenedup @ 3.90

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Shaun View Post
            Race 2

            Since you advised we needed 11 runners i had already layed him @2.28 the place earlier today and just greenedup @ 3.90
            Ran like a drain, job's a good'un.

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            • #7
              Race 2 done, an in play trade 525 @ 3.18 Nathaniel, lay 824.99 @ 2.03 with 4 seconds delay, and I am finally in front for the day....
              Different experience, both bets placed, didn't see anything, but net stake told the story... Delay is a bitch, but running well during race always equals a little bit left....

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              • #8
                Tip, Joviality to trade at 7.50 or so? Hmmmmm

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Temujin View Post
                  Tip, Joviality to trade at 7.50 or so? Hmmmmm
                  Every chance of trading short. Won the Group 3 Musidora last time (1m2f) but connections must have thought that the 1m4f Oaks trip was beyond her (Ribblesdale same distance).

                  Her dam was by Night Shift and her own sire Cape Cross gets good soft ground milers, so I reckon she will make the frame.

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                  • #10
                    I will accept the in play reference here at this juncture. But between you and me, shhhhhh, I was thinking pre race it may shorten a little, 7.5 was the absolute bottom I was thinking, but certainly 8.5-9 I was confident of..

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                    • #11
                      Sticking with it, my spider senses suggest that something is not quite right about his one and my trade will come off in play.. Putting my lay bet in at 8.2 against my back bet of 12.00.. Only went in small, so no dramas...
                      This is actually happening, no stresses...

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                      • #12
                        Into 3.2... Oh well, a green back is always a green back.... 4 of them would have been nice, but shit happens.

                        Reminder to everybody. NEVER go in play. Sorry about that... :P

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                        • #13
                          Race 3

                          Very nice Matched @ 10.14/3.86

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                          • #14
                            Race 4

                            I backed @ 25 and got matched @ 8 in running, i had to put my lay bet in at the beginning of the race because i don't have vision, what price did it get down to?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Shaun View Post
                              Race 4

                              I backed @ 25 and got matched @ 8 in running, i had to put my lay bet in at the beginning of the race because i don't have vision, what price did it get down to?
                              I saw a shade of odds-on in running. Looked like getting there for a moment.

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