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  • Betfair - bet orders routing on Australian events?

    Does someone know if bets are routed to Betfair Malta for non-UK customers when they bet on australian markets like Australian Open?

    For example when a geman bettor bets on european games, bets run like this:
    Germany (Home)-> UK (Betfair) -> Malta (Betfair International) -> UK (Betfair) -> UK exchange

    What does happen when he bets on Australia Open games?
    Germany (Home)-> Australia (Betfair) -> Malta (Betfair International) -> Australia (Betfair) -> Australian exhcge
    OR
    Germany (Home) -> Australia (Betfair) -> Australian exchange

    By the way, I have a betting system that I would like to discuss with an experienced tennis trader, if you are interested, please, PM me.

  • #2
    Originally posted by thorp View Post
    For example when a geman bettor bets on european games, bets run like this:
    Germany (Home)-> UK (Betfair) -> Malta (Betfair International) -> UK (Betfair) -> UK exchange
    This is incorrect. Someone asked something similar earlier over on the Bet Devil forum and I even had to correct Peter Webb on his understanding of it - not many times I know more about trading on Betfair than him lol.

    Here is the correct set of routes:


    UK registered customers go:

    Home (Depends on your connection) > Betfair London > Home (Depends on your connection)

    UK registered customers using a VPS go:

    Home (Depends on your connection) > VPS (0-15ms)>Betfair London> VPS (0-15ms) > Home (Depends on your connection)

    International customers go:

    Home (Depends on your connection) > Betfair London (30ms) > Betfair Malta (30ms) > Betfair London (30ms) > Betfair Malta (30ms) > Betfair London (30ms) > Home (Depends on your connection)

    International customers using a VPS go:

    Home (Depends on your connection) > VPS (0-15ms) > Betfair London (30ms) > Betfair Malta (30ms) > Betfair London (30ms) > Betfair Malta (30ms) > Betfair London (30ms) > VPS (0-15ms) > Home (Depends on your connection)

    UK registered customers using a Bot installed on a VPS go:

    VPS (0-15ms)>Betfair London> VPS (0-15ms)

    International customers using a Bot installed on a VPS go:

    VPS (0-15ms) > Betfair London (30ms) > Betfair Malta (30ms) > Betfair London (30ms) > Betfair Malta (30ms) > Betfair London (30ms) > VPS (0-15ms)
    Last edited by Leonthefixer; 31 August 2010, 10:58 PM.

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    • #3
      Thanks Leon. Do you know the answer for the Australian events?

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      • #4
        I don't know for certain so wouldn't like to speculate. I will contact the BDP guys and get a definitive answer for you hopefully.

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        • #5
          Here is the correct set of routes for all customers:




          When betting on all markets except Australian Markets:


          UK registered customers go:

          Home (Depends on your connection) > Betfair London > Home (Depends on your connection)


          UK registered customers using a VPS go:

          Home (Depends on your connection) > VPS (Depends on VPS and its location) > Betfair London > VPS (Depends on VPS and its location) > Home (Depends on your connection)


          International customers including Australian go:

          Home (Depends on your connection) > Betfair London (30ms) > Betfair Malta (30ms) > Betfair London (30ms) > Betfair Malta (30ms) > Betfair London (30ms) > Home (Depends on your connection)


          International customers including Australian Customers using a VPS go:

          Home (Depends on your connection) > VPS (Depends on VPS and its location) > Betfair London (30ms) > Betfair Malta (30ms) > Betfair London (30ms) > Betfair Malta (30ms) > Betfair London (30ms) > VPS (Depends on VPS and its location) > Home (Depends on your connection)


          UK registered customers using a Bot installed on a VPS go:

          VPS (Depends on VPS and its location) > Betfair London > VPS (Depends on VPS and its location)


          International customers including Australian Customers using a Bot installed on a VPS go:

          VPS (Depends on VPS and its location) > Betfair London (30ms) > Betfair Malta (30ms) > Betfair London (30ms) > Betfair Malta (30ms) > Betfair London (30ms) > VPS (Depends on VPS and its location)




          When betting on Australian Markets:


          UK registered customers and International customers including Australian go:

          Home (Depends on your connection) > Betfair Australia > Home (Depends on your connection)


          UK registered customers and International customers including Australian using a VPS go:

          Home (Depends on your connection) > VPS (Depends on VPS and its location) > Betfair Australia > VPS (Depends on VPS and its location) > Home (Depends on your connection)


          UK registered customers and International customers including Australian using a Bot installed on a VPS go:

          VPS (Depends on VPS and its location) > Betfair Australia > VPS (Depends on VPS and its location)

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          • #6
            Thank You very much.

            Now I know I can trade Australian In Play markets without being at disavantage against UK punters.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by thorp View Post
              Thank You very much.

              Now I know I can trade Australian In Play markets without being at disavantage against UK punters.

              I think you may be at a disadvantage. I get 0.2 seconds refresh on uk horses but i get 0.4/0.5 seconds when trading aus horses

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              • #8
                dear Leonthefixer i have a question for you about the router of costumer.
                You wrote:

                UK registered customers go:

                Home (Depends on your connection) > Betfair London > Home (Depends on your connection)

                my question is the follow:
                if a uk registered customer (the customer is uk and have the account in GBP) go for example in Italy, so him use a italian ip, the routing is Home (italy) > Betfair London > Home (italy) or Home (italy) > Betfair London (30ms) > Betfair Malta (30ms) > Betfair London (30ms) > Betfair Malta (30ms) > Betfair London (30ms) > Home (italy)?

                so i need understand if the routing in London or Malta depends from Ip uk address or uk registered customer. Thanks

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by worldbroker View Post
                  dear Leonthefixer i have a question for you about the router of costumer.
                  You wrote:

                  UK registered customers go:

                  Home (Depends on your connection) > Betfair London > Home (Depends on your connection)

                  my question is the follow:
                  if a uk registered customer (the customer is uk and have the account in GBP) go for example in Italy, so him use a italian ip, the routing is Home (italy) > Betfair London > Home (italy) or Home (italy) > Betfair London (30ms) > Betfair Malta (30ms) > Betfair London (30ms) > Betfair Malta (30ms) > Betfair London (30ms) > Home (italy)?

                  so i need understand if the routing in London or Malta depends from Ip uk address or uk registered customer. Thanks
                  It is done on where you are registered not your ip so they would go:

                  Originally posted by Leonthefixer View Post
                  UK registered customers go:

                  Home (Depends on your connection) > Betfair London > Home (Depends on your connection)
                  Though this may have changed a bit since Betfair relocated their data centre to Ireland the other week.

                  If you have any questions on it since they have done this probably best to ask Betfair directly as I haven't the time to research it at the moment.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by thorp View Post
                    Thank You very much.

                    Now I know I can trade Australian In Play markets without being at disavantage against UK punters.
                    I have tried In-play in Australia and am situated in Brisbane Australia and have given up.
                    Australia is on a delay on radio and TV plus not enough action in the market.
                    A very hard thing to do!

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