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  • Welsh National - 2.10 Chepstow (If its on)

    Le Beau Bai heads the market at 5.9, although he has done nothing on the track to warrant such a short price. Yes - he has won at Chepstow (Last time out, off top weight) and Yes - he won a small uncompetitive handicap at Warwick over 3m5f in February but this is a hugely competitive contest and I would be looking to take him on.

    The Tother One ran well enough at Cheltenham last time out when he and the eventual winner The Package drew well clear. The Package was entitled to win on revised terms from their meeting at Wincanton weeks earlier and so for The Tother One to only get beat a length it must be a big positive for his chance in this race. 7.8 is fair if not attractive and AP rides for the Champion trainer.

    The general consensus towards Halcon Genelardais is that he stays all day on soft ground and so he will be at home here. Beaten 7l in this race last year when conditions were similar, he has only had three races since - at Cheltenham in January when he was beaten by Joe Lively and then a Gold Cup flop and Betfair Chase fourth (Both races were won by Kauto Star). A rating of 157 makes life difficult but he does have a touch of class and plenty of stamina. Chance. 11.5

    Silver By Nature has been off the track since he won at Carlisle on 1st November. He has been risen 13lb for that effort and on his previous runs he looks likely to struggle here. 15 looks short.

    Operation Houdini is being backed and has some decent form in the book, the best of which is arguably a win at Galway in October (2m6f). Yet to tackle extreme distances, he has obvious stamina question marks but heavy ground and a left handed track are definite positives. 14

    Flintoff, Coe, Old Benny and Gone To Lunch are all handicappers who may have their day. I would side with the Trevor Hemmings-owned pair of Coe and Old Benny on official ratings from these four.

    Kilbeggan Blade was on many a Grand National list in April (Pulled up) but ground as always is key and he gets his favoured soft going here. He slammed the subsequent Grand National winner Mon Mome by 4l over hurdles in January when giving him weight. Read what you like into that. 50 is very appealing.

    Ballyfitz could be a forgotten horse as well. He ran unbelievably poorly in the Hennessy but re-appeared quickly at Sandown and won well over hurdles. Soft ground and a test of stamina are his requirements so he should enter calculations here, although how he will fare off 144 is open to question. 34 looks too big, though.

    Nozic travelled up in his last Newcastle race but faded when asked a question, on the overall balance of his form 18 looks skimpy.

    Kornati Kid should make the shortlist on his Hennessy run, the handicapper has actually lowered him 3lb and he is off 145 here. 23 is a fair each way call.

    Of the others, Hello Bud has not won off 142 before and struggled at Aintree last time, Iris De Balme won the 2008 Scottish National but the ground is totally different here and he has been off the track for an age, Dream Alliance is one to keep an eye on after a recent hurdles spin and Mon Mome had better start now if he is to win, while Miko De Beauchene (Form),Cornish Sett (Handicap mark) and Zacharova (Form) should not trouble the judge.




    Summary Coe, Kilbeggan Blade and Ballyfitz stand out as being too big for me. Dream Alliance should be noted in the betting too.

    Lets hope it passes the inspection
    Last edited by Emkayracing; 28 December 2009, 02:38 AM. Reason: Form error/Added selection

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    A race to trade, not to bet on, endless slog in a mudbath, plenty fallers, pulled up's etc.
    Do you back the 4 U mention against the field?

    still on 3rd inspection

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    • #3
      Now going for a fourth inspection at 11.30. As usual the officials are optimistic and rate the chances at 70-30 in favour of racing going ahead. Tony McCoy less so, after walking the course at 10.20 he said "There is still some frosty patches and the concern is round the bend where the sun is unlikely to reach."
      I often use big words that I don't fully understand in an effort to make myself sound more photosynthesis.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Ted View Post
        A race to trade, not to bet on, endless slog in a mudbath, plenty fallers, pulled up's etc.
        Do you back the 4 U mention against the field?

        still on 3rd inspection
        Hi Ted. My approach towards this particular race has been to cover the four selections (Dutched, not level stakes) using a set % of my bank. I have then placed lays of another set % odds reduction which I want to be matched either pre-race or in-play. It is my tried and tested approach which can only be described as borderline between straight betting and trading (No lay bets matched = Loss), although there will be plenty of time in this 3m5f slog to back-out.

        With regard to the third inspection there will be hell to pay for the clerk of the course if they do not go ahead now. The Haydock guy took plenty of abuse for a similar episode some weeks ago.

        Fingers crossed

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        • #5
          Racing is on after the fourth inspection
          I often use big words that I don't fully understand in an effort to make myself sound more photosynthesis.

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          • #6
            Post Race Summary

            Another payday.

            Coe (Backed @ 17) was the first to shorten considerably in-running, my lay bet was matched as they passed the stands and I greened up the 'Free bet' turning for home just when the race was taking shape - orders of 5-7 were matched at that stage.

            Kilbeggan Blade (Backed @ 60) ran prominently and was soon shortening. The combination of lower stake / higher odds meant that a small profit was achieved on trading him.

            Ballyfitz (Backed @ 34) went off at around 22. His in-running odds graph must make interesting viewing (Shortened, jumping error, shortened) but he put more cash in the pot at odds in the early teens.

            Finally Dream Alliance (Backed @ 48) did the business despite falling over the line. There was plenty of money for him beforehand (Started late 20s / Early 30s) and when he loomed up on the home turn I did not have a moments worry. I gave the 'Free bet' back at 1.5 by which time the book was all green and so this was another added extra.

            Better than a cold turkey sandwich

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Emkayracing View Post
              Le Beau Bai heads the market at 5.9, although he has done nothing on the track to warrant such a short price. Yes - he has won at Chepstow (Last time out, off top weight) and Yes - he won a small uncompetitive handicap at Warwick over 3m5f in February but this is a hugely competitive contest and I would be looking to take him on.

              The Tother One ran well enough at Cheltenham last time out when he and the eventual winner The Package drew well clear. The Package was entitled to win on revised terms from their meeting at Wincanton weeks earlier and so for The Tother One to only get beat a length it must be a big positive for his chance in this race. 7.8 is fair if not attractive and AP rides for the Champion trainer.

              The general consensus towards Halcon Genelardais is that he stays all day on soft ground and so he will be at home here. Beaten 7l in this race last year when conditions were similar, he has only had three races since - at Cheltenham in January when he was beaten by Joe Lively and then a Gold Cup flop and Betfair Chase fourth (Both races were won by Kauto Star). A rating of 157 makes life difficult but he does have a touch of class and plenty of stamina. Chance. 11.5

              Silver By Nature has been off the track since he won at Carlisle on 1st November. He has been risen 13lb for that effort and on his previous runs he looks likely to struggle here. 15 looks short.

              Operation Houdini is being backed and has some decent form in the book, the best of which is arguably a win at Galway in October (2m6f). Yet to tackle extreme distances, he has obvious stamina question marks but heavy ground and a left handed track are definite positives. 14

              Flintoff, Coe, Old Benny and Gone To Lunch are all handicappers who may have their day. I would side with the Trevor Hemmings-owned pair of Coe and Old Benny on official ratings from these four.

              Kilbeggan Blade was on many a Grand National list in April (Pulled up) but ground as always is key and he gets his favoured soft going here. He slammed the subsequent Grand National winner Mon Mome by 4l over hurdles in January when giving him weight. Read what you like into that. 50 is very appealing.

              Ballyfitz could be a forgotten horse as well. He ran unbelievably poorly in the Hennessy but re-appeared quickly at Sandown and won well over hurdles. Soft ground and a test of stamina are his requirements so he should enter calculations here, although how he will fare off 144 is open to question. 34 looks too big, though.

              Nozic travelled up in his last Newcastle race but faded when asked a question, on the overall balance of his form 18 looks skimpy.

              Kornati Kid should make the shortlist on his Hennessy run, the handicapper has actually lowered him 3lb and he is off 145 here. 23 is a fair each way call.

              Of the others, Hello Bud has not won off 142 before and struggled at Aintree last time, Iris De Balme won the 2008 Scottish National but the ground is totally different here and he has been off the track for an age, Dream Alliance is one to keep an eye on after a recent hurdles spin and Mon Mome had better start now if he is to win, while Miko De Beauchene (Form),Cornish Sett (Handicap mark) and Zacharova (Form) should not trouble the judge.




              Summary Coe, Kilbeggan Blade and Ballyfitz stand out as being too big for me. Dream Alliance should be noted in the betting too.

              Lets hope it passes the inspection
              Got the field covered there

              Tother one ran pretty teribbly, i can't help but take the mugs way out and blame the jockey

              Only had a few quid on but managed to back first and second

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Scumbag trader View Post
                Got the field covered there

                Tother one ran pretty teribbly, i can't help but take the mugs way out and blame the jockey

                Only had a few quid on but managed to back first and second
                The Tother One was never going, I would be interested to see stats from the various Paul Nicholls yards because some of his are still very in and out. Not many would want that ground though, eh?!

                Couldn't have the second at the price but he ran really well. Apparently did not go odds-on.

                Hopefully I touched on every runner

                Played four, matched four - Doesn't happen often but very nice when it does

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                • #9
                  Emkay,
                  good moves, deserve to win after the effort involved, I didn't play in it

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Emkayracing View Post
                    The Tother One was never going, I would be interested to see stats from the various Paul Nicholls yards because some of his are still very in and out. Not many would want that ground though, eh?!

                    Couldn't have the second at the price but he ran really well. Apparently did not go odds-on.

                    Hopefully I touched on every runner

                    Played four, matched four - Doesn't happen often but very nice when it does
                    I played four myself, but the only one i had that you had was the winner

                    Maybe we should join forces, we could pick the winner every time

                    Wish i was on at 48s mind you . . . .

                    (told you i only had a few quid on !)
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Scumbag trader View Post
                      I played four myself, but the only one i had that you had was the winner

                      Maybe we should join forces, we could pick the winner every time

                      Wish i was on at 48s mind you . . . .

                      (told you i only had a few quid on !)
                      Exacta £650+ - Ouch!

                      Who would you be - Bingo or Adster ??!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Emkayracing View Post
                        Exacta £650+ - Ouch!

                        Who would you be - Bingo or Adster ??!
                        Don't even go there !

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