Liquidity: Fair v Daq

[jimrobo]

no worries glad it worked!

I'm no expert just a bit of an amateur wannabe geek!!!

[Morgans Choice]

LOL, seems that you're on your way,

cheers, MC

[LuckyYou]

you'll be surprised how many websites have some simple cross compatibility errors. Just using a differetn browser can solve a lot of problems!

Yeah You can't depostit with Safari in 188bet even if in the site is written that they use that browser

[Firkinelle]

no worries glad it worked!

I'm no expert just a bit of an amateur wannabe geek!!!

Any ideas for J's next project

[Leonthefixer]

I know it is calculated differently but £1 million on Betdaq is some change compared to the past surely!

[Leonthefixer]

Footage of Betfair's board discussing the success of the new PC and discussing liquidity since the launch of it

[Caan Berry]

Im a far smaller trader than most and i've managed some good ones today... here's my bit to spur TG on c'mon toy all the way

http://imageshack.us/f/19/betdaq.png/

[Caan Berry]

surely if quite a few made a donation too that could tempt ya?

[doubleback]

All it would need to begin with would be a grid and ladder. No need for charts etc.

That is a problem for me, I didn't trade on Betfair on Protest Day but have been since.
The reason that I haven't switched is down to charts. (A.C.L take note!)
I am too heavily chart reliant, so switching is proving to be a bit of an issue with me with no viable solution as of yet being realised,
although I am tinkering away to try and find one on the various free software available.
I feel that as soon as new and updated Betdaq software is released, a fresh wave of users will switch.
As for the future, Push Framework technology looks interesting:

"Push Framework is a C++ library aimed at easing the development of high performance servers.
The technical design is perfect to handle situations where a large number of connected clients engage with each others in a real time fashion
and the server is required to stream back both direct responses and group broadcasts. It can maintain and manage long-lived connections and
ensure the efficient flow of discrete, bi-directional communication messages. Information is pushed asynchronously :
no need for a client-side polling mechanism to retrieve the “updates”.
Broadcasting is handled with the notion of broadcasting channel whereby data is instantly published to its subscribers according to priority and quotas rules for QoS."

[Leonthefixer]

The reason that I haven't switched is down to charts.

Not sure if this will help you as it depends what you need the charts for but why don't you just run both exchanges at once? You can use TT charts for BF but just submit your orders via BD?

I also have the BF ladder up and watch that - I really could do with another set of eyes but I am getting used to it now.

[doubleback]

I remember going down that route before The Toy had charts, I was using DaqBot graphs and AGT to place bets.
The conclusion that I came to then was that I would like to have a chart for the actual market that I was trading on.
Now, this is the rub, how close are the markets on BF and BD? I know they are close, very close,
to the point that it has been suggested BD are betting on their own markets to keep their prices in line with BF.......
I will take another look at that Leon, cheers.

[Leonthefixer]

You might be surprised to find that the prices can often be better on BD and that is before commission. Perhaps it is to do with the oncourse bookmakers using BD to hedge so they can afford to give away a bit of value.

Some races the differences are surprising. There was an odds on fav yesterday where BD was constantly 4 ticks bigger on it than BF and there was thousands available. The horse went on to win.

[Leonthefixer]

Peter Webb just posted these figures from Betdaq today:

"Here are some of the volumes at post time, not the actual off, from today.

14:00 York - Win Market £361,864
14:05 Ascot - Win Market £346,834
14:15 Newmarket - Win Market £242,702
14:25 Newcastle - Win Market £267,303
14:30 York - Win Market £452,413
14:40 Ascot - Win Market £798,074
14:45 Newmarket - Win Market £366,298
14:55 Newcastle - Win Market £302,530
15:05 York - Win Market £604,181
15:15 Ascot - Win Market £618,765
15:20 Newmarket - Win Market £227,706
15:30 Newcastle - Win Market £357,036
15:40 York - Win Market £985,771
15:50 Ascot - Win Market £927,738
16:05 Newcastle - Win Market £354,695
16:10 York - Win Market £555,123
16:30 King George VI & Queen Elizabeth Stakes - Win Market £1,788,826
16:40 Newcastle - Win Market £453,161
16:45 York - Win Market £450,242
17:00 Newmarket - Win Market £310,627
17:15 Newcastle - Win Market £449,247
17:20 York - Win Market £840,147"

Interesting stuff.

[doubleback]

Some races the differences are surprising. There was an odds on fav yesterday where BD was constantly 4 ticks bigger on it than BF and there was thousands available. The horse went on to win.

Which confirms my initial thoughts about using BF charts and a BD interface,
I suppose that BF software could be used for charting as an indication only.
So another "C'mon Geekster, pull ya finger out and get a BD version released" is in order..........

I was watching the matched money today, things are definately changing.
On the 16:30 King George VI & Queen Elizabeth Stakes off the top of my head
BF had over 3m matched though.
It seemed to me the money was 'toing and froing' between the two exchanges.

[doubleback]

Just to add into the equation a post/link from the facebook group:

Betfair liquidity during mass exodus.

I am still mulling this over and just putting this out there.............